Macy Gray makes her views on trans issues clear in a no holds barred interview with Piers Morgan

Appearing on Piers Morgan’s TalkTV show on Monday, singer Macy Gray, 54, got real about transgender and race, saying: ‘Just because you go and change your parts doesn’t make you a woman, sorry.’

Acknowledging that she might face fierce backlash didn’t stop her from agreeing with Piers Morgan, 57, who said most public figures were too terrified to say ‘what a woman is.’

The singer replied: ‘I know!.. I would say a human being with boobs. How about you start there? And a vagina.’

Adding: ‘Now that’s getting confusing.’

The duo discussed the issue of trans women in sport as the host said: ‘I support all trans rights to fairness and equality’.

Morgan then went on to add how he doesn’t support transgender people with ‘physical superior bodies’ that thrash on women in their sports.

Macy added, ‘I totally agree… f you want me to call you a ‘her’, I will, because that’s what you want but that doesn’t make you a woman just because I call you a ‘her’ and just because you got a surgery.”

‘Changing your parts doesn’t make you a woman’: Macy Gray, 54, made her views on Trans issues clear in a no holds barred interview with Piers Morgan on Monday

Controversial: During the no holds barred interview the singer, 54, also spoke about her recent controversial comments about changing the American flag (pictured earlier this year)

Controversial: During the no holds barred interview the singer, 54, also spoke about her recent controversial comments about changing the American flag (pictured earlier this year)

Interview: Piers, 57, then said that he believed most public figures were too terrified to say 'what a woman is'

Interview: Piers, 57, then said that he believed most public figures were too terrified to say ‘what a woman is’

She went on to say: ‘A woman goes through a completely unique experience and surgery and finding yourself doesn’t change that. Being a little girl is a whole epic book, you know? You can’t have that just because you want to be a woman.’

When Piers pointed out that Harry Potter author JK Rowling had been criticized for her views on trans women, Macy said: ‘But it’s the truth.’

Adding: ‘I don’t think you should be called transphobic just because you don’t agree… there is a lot of judgment and throwing stones at people for just saying what it is, do you know what I mean?’.

Criticized: When Piers pointed out that Harry Potter author JK Rowling had been criticized for her views on trans women, Macy said: 'But it's the truth.'

Criticized: When Piers pointed out that Harry Potter author JK Rowling had been criticized for her views on trans women, Macy said: ‘But it’s the truth.’

Speaking about comments she made when suggesting the American flag should be resigned she said she was ‘excited to bring it [the subject] up again’.

The singer insists that the flag should reflect ‘diversity and culture.’

‘My idea was to make the stars the colors of all of us. So there would be a star representing you, one representing me, one representing everybody in the room, right. So that way you look up to the flag, you feel welcome, you feel included, you feel like you belong there’.’

Gray claimed ‘the flag was conceptualised’ and created to reflect what was occurring at the time – which was.

‘That was not a thing we celebrate, a flag that represents war,’ she said.

She added, ‘It’s not that it’s about white people, it’s just that everything is different than when Lincoln was President. Whoever designed that flag designed it for that day. I’m just saying what’s wrong with a new flag and what’s wrong with representing where we are now?’

Grays comments come after she received backlash for her earlier comments on the flag in June 2021 – claiming it needs to be redesigned to represent all Americans and is currently ‘tattered, dated, divisive, and incorrect.’

Republicans were quick to slam the singer claiming it symbolized ‘liberty’ and ‘justice.’

Gray claimed she didn’t expect the backlash and figured people would agree with the idea of ​​a new flag.

Holiday: Piers will have about a month off from his Talk TV show later in the summer, as the program struggles to attract the same audiences that tuned in when it first launched

Holiday: Piers will have about a month off from his Talk TV show later in the summer, as the program struggles to attract the same audiences that tuned in when it first launched

It comes after it was reported Piers will take a month off from his show later in the summer, as the program struggles to attract the same audiences that tuned in when it first launched.

The former Good Morning Britain star averaged more than 300,000 viewers for his debut episode on April 25, in which he interviewed the former US president Donald Trump.

But since then the viewing figures have plunged, with recent episodes getting about 30,000 viewers.

It has emerged that the presenter will not be on the channel for about four weeks in late summer, as a result of pre-scheduled holiday along with filming commitments for a true crime documentary series he is making.

For the full interview, watch Piers Morgan Uncensored tonight at 8pm on TalkTV.

Famous friends: The former Good Morning Britain star averaged more than 300,000 viewers for his debut episode on April 25, in which he interviewed the former US president Donald Trump

Famous friends: The former Good Morning Britain star averaged more than 300,000 viewers for his debut episode on April 25, in which he interviewed the former US president Donald Trump

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